Dream Diary relating to the WCG (Part 4)
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When a prophet of the Lord is among you, I reveal Myself to him in visions, I speak to him in dreams (Numbers 12:6, NIV).
(H = Helena’s dream. M = Malcolm’s dream, etc.)
He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit is saying to the churches (Rev 2:7).
These are merely SOME of the revelations in dreams which concern the Worldwide Church of God (WCG).
Earlier dreams are contained in the book Dreams From God About The WCG.
The WCG’s Wrong Motivation
23rd April 2004. M. The commercialism of the WCG.
I was taking a look at the back garden of our former home [represents ‘our’ former church]. A tractor came along the track or driveway. I was astonished to see this there. On this tractor there was a large tank or container. Clearly they were using the place in conjunction with a commercial enterprise.
Meaning: The church which we belonged to at one time has degenerated to the point where its main aim is now to make money. Their focus is on money, not on God. God doesn’t provide for them. They have resorted to human methods of commerce to raise funds.
In the second part of this dream I went to the front of the house and talked with someone there. He was quite openly discussing who the new neighbour was next door.
Meaning: This portrays how they have no shame about their apostasy, and openly talk about their new-found ‘friends’ who have renounced aspects of obedience to God in favour of an all-encompassing ‘grace’ teaching (it is licentiousness!).
Coming Contact With The WCG
4th July 2004. M. Buying the old property.
In this dream, we were negotiating to buy an end of terrace property. It was narrow, had restricted space, and was just a shell of a building. The old wooden floor was sloping steeply downhill, the property was mis-shapen, and although there was a roof over it, there was nothing inside. It was a mere shell.
I thought it could be bought for about £100,000, and that we could get it turned into a one-bedroom maisonette, with living room, bathroom and kitchen. I was weighing up the practicalities of the prospect. There was one major complication. A roof purlin had to be accommodated into the new structure because it was still supporting the adjacent property. So, that could not be cut out. It would have to be built in to the new roof, when built.
Someone else was also interested in buying the shell of a building, so we had to negotiate a buying price. We finally settled on £105,000.
Meaning: The dream is to do with the vestiges of the WCG in Britain. It is a shell of its former self and needs renewal. It needs to be completely rebuilt.
I wrote a letter last night to a man who is still prominent in the WCG, and who has contacts ‘high up’ there. The letter follows. The dream conveys what will be an outcome of this, in due course. We will reach many in that church at last, and ‘buy’ them with the power of God, etc. But the roof structure (the leadership) cannot be totally got rid of. One ‘purlin’ or possibly two (a purlin is a large beam placed at a right angle to the rafters and which supports the rafters – the sloping roof timbers) must remain and be accommodated in the new arrangement when these people finally respond and are ‘bought out’ by us.
My letter:
3rd July 2004
I enclose a small publication relating how a Nigerian pastor was raised from the dead through his wife’s claim of Jesus’ promise in Matthew 10:8. [Raised From The Dead, 2.]
You may have heard of Reinhard Bonnke, the German born evangelist who has done much to evangelise black Africa over the past 30+ years. He is mentioned in the enclosed leaflet, but you won’t have heard of Nneka Ekechukwu, yet it was she who had the faith for this miracle to occur. It was not Reinhard. God merely used his prominence to make the miracle well-known. (Food for thought.)
The WCG is now affiliated with the Evangelical Alliance, as is Reinhard Bonnke. Yet, in the mid-nineties, when we sent – to you and many other WCG members – videos of Reinhard Bonnke ministering and preaching in various places, most of those videos were rejected, binned, returned, trashed, graffitied, or wiped and given to ‘charity’ at the direction of WCG ministers who prejudicially dismissed anything and everything we said or promoted.
Yet, it was as a result of our promotion of anti-exclusivist teaching in A Message To Worldwiders, A Message To ‘Law-Keepers’, and A Message To ‘Sabbatarians’, sent to all WCG offices and hundreds of WCG members, that the WCG junta was forced to radically modify its formerly exclusivist stand, and nominally accept these ‘other Christians’, preachers and evangelists, though they wouldn’t accept us!
Now that the WCG is a part of the Evangelical Alliance, the auspices of which Reinhard Bonnke utilises, I presume you now accept this man of God. I first heard him in 1988, while still in the WCG, and God showed me then that he was a man of God, as we later learned (in 1991) about many other ‘outside’ preachers. But Paul Suckling rubbished our claims from the pulpit, and Harry Sullivan privately equally polarised WCG minds against us for saying such things. However, now that we have been proved right, there are no apologies or retractions made about us from WCG overlords, and you still react to us with hostility and prejudice. May I ask why that is?
It’s part of the gospel to raise the dead, just as it is part of the gospel to heal the sick, cast out demons, or speak in tongues. But of course, all this is alien to those who still cling to restrictive theology which denies Jesus’ words in John 14:12, or who allow church leaders to prejudice them against others in God’s service. The Open Letter enclosed explains more. Hope it’s useful to you.
Ironically, it’s easier raising the dead than reaching old friends!
We have power [from God] to raise the dead, and will be demonstrating that shortly. The small publication I sent you previously related that, and the sequel enclosed shows that it’s not just us who claim that privilege, lest any think we are being presumptuous in stating it.
It’s now 14 years since we were falsely accused and thrown out of the WCG for exposing sham and hypocrisy (though members were never told the truth about why they got rid of us). Don’t you think it’s about time they buried the hatchet and acknowledged the truth we teach? Or do we have to prove that we speak for God by raising more people from the dead?
I invite your reply, so that severed relationships can be healed.
[There was no reply. These people are too proud to receive correction.]
WCG Facing Final Collapse
23rd August 2004. M. The WCG’s Bulging Walls.
This dream featured a man who was in ‘our’ former church who lived in a very large home that many people would term a ‘mansion’. But it was an old house, and high up, the walls were bellying out. In the dream, the walls were bulging out so much that the house was liable to collapse at any moment.
I was looking at this sight with a friend. He knew that I could fix it, having been a builder. But the job was so big that I didn’t want it. It would have meant buttressing the walls temporarily, then taking them down brick by brick, and rebuilding. It was too big a task and would mean having to get many workers to help. I said to him, “Just let it fall.” But he didn’t listen to me, and contacted the guy to tell him I could fix it. I was annoyed with him, because I didn’t want him offering my services. Nor did I want the job.
Meaning: The man in the mansion apostatised along with the rest of the WCG. They all renounced truth in order to keep with the organisation as its wayward leadership led it spiritually downwards. They rejected the instruction of God. Hence, the WCG will soon fall.
Isaiah 30 is a fitting epitaph to this once proud church:
Now go, write it before them... that it may be for a time to come, forever and ever: That this is a rebellious people, lying children. Children who will not hear the law of the Lord; who say to the seers, ‘Do not see,’ and to the prophets, ‘Do not prophesy to us right things; speak to us smooth things, prophesy deceits. Get out of the way, turn aside from the path. Cause the Holy One of Israel to cease from before us.’
Therefore, thus says the Holy One of Israel, ‘Because you despise this word, and trust in oppression and perversity, and rely on them [want to make ‘pacts’ and friends with other churches to curry their favour, despite the false teachings they have], therefore this iniquity shall be to you like a breach ready to fall, a bulge in a high wall, whose breaking comes suddenly, in an instant. And He shall break it like the breaking of a potter’s vessel, which is broken in pieces. He shall not spare, so there shall not be found among its fragments a shard to take fire from the hearth, or to take water from the cistern.’ (Isaiah 30:8-14.)
The words that follow in Isaiah 30 are also relevant to the WCG in this context.
WCG Minister Unforgiving
17th Dec. 2004. M. Andrew Silcox Being Sarcastic.
Andrew Silcox was being sarcastic and suspicious. He clearly still held a grudge against me for what happened 14 years in the past. He asked something about some forged letters and wanted to know more about them. I saw a bus go past on the road outside and said, “Oh, look, they’re they go.” I then went on my way.
Meaning: Those whose unforgiveness and resentment cause them to be sarcastic towards me will get as good as they give until they repent of their wrong attitudes. I’ll get on with what God moves me regardless. It’s their problem, not mine.
Some will criticise me for naming and shaming this individual. Do you want to see him in the Kingdom of God? Well, if he’s going to be there, he’d better get rid of his spiritual venom quick. There isn’t much time left. Do you think God is pleased to be waiting 14 years for a man to forgive one who is used as a prophet of the Almighty? And is He pleased by this man welcoming such demonic attitudes to persist in his arrogant psyche, with which he then infects other children of God? You bet He’s not pleased!! He’s sick of it!! That’s why Andrew is named. He used to be a friend of mine, too. But the Work of God overrides human friendships. Spiritual duty comes first.
Anyone who wants to criticise me for what I write in these exposés will have to answer to God. HE gives the dreams, not me. I was hopeful that Andrew would repent, so we could be friends once again, but time proves differently now.
There are many false ministers in Church of God groups; let me mention a handful more: Harry Sullivan, Paul Suckling, Les McCullough, George Delap, David Silcox, John Halford, Peter Nathan, Joel Meeker... and many, many more. Beware!
[And, since this was written, God has shown that Andrew has had his opportunity to turn to God, but he has consistently refused. He is now a false minister and won’t be saved.]
Perverse and Collapsing WCG
30th Dec. 2004. M. The WCG’s Disused Toilets.
The dream featured the terrible run-down state of the WCG’s toilets. They were so old and dysfunctional and no one used them.
Meaning: Spiritual, to do with not getting rid of sin.
2) The WCG’s Roof Collapsing Badly.
The roof of the WCG’s building was collapsing. It was a laughable, yet tragic sight. The ridge tiles were tightly held together [ministers], sticking up into the air, while the roof below them had collapsed about three feet.
Meaning: They have thrown out the Truth that supports and spiritually protects. They have rejected God in favour of human appeasement. The result is a church that won’t stand.
The WCG Lives With Lies!
21st Feb 2005. M. WCG People.
Three or four WCG men were part of the subject of this dream, but they were to one side. In the centre, Helena and I were making a proclamation that the WCG does not accept the gifts of the Spirit, even though they may talk about them. People must not be fooled by their rhetoric. They do not practice what they feignedly ‘acknowledge’.
Malcolm ‘Winds Up’ A WCG Minister
19th March 2005. H.
I saw Malcolm rev up a racing car. It was like an earlier model with a long front. He challenged one of the drivers to a duel. A S, who was in the other car, responded with fury! He was going to go for Malcolm’s car but couldn’t get to him.
Meaning: Malcolm had written to Andrew Silcox exposing his hypocrisy, dishonesty and manipulation. The dream depicts what took place in the spiritual. A S’s response portrays his malicious response and unspiritual approach.
We Have The WCG Pinned!
26th March 2005. H. Malcolm was talking to F B, a WCG minister. He looked taller and thinner than in real life. His height reflects what he thinks of himself. His thinness reflects his spiritual state – being undernourished.
Malcolm was confident and talked with wisdom and clarity. F B was responding, trying to defend himself.
Meaning: God showing through the imagery of the dream who has His wisdom in this stand-off between WCG and MM. We have the moral and spiritual victory, even though they don’t admit it.
WCG Folks Physically-Minded
17th November 2005. M. John Dxxx.
This person whom we knew in the WCG (many years ago) was coming from a shopping trip. He met me in the High Street of the town near where he lives, and said, “So-and-so are offering new kitchen units all for £230.” That’s all he said.
Meaning: His focus is entirely physical and the figure of 230 (23 x 10) illustrates the hypocrisy (23) in his religion which is merely human (10), not of God.
The Evil WCG
1st Jan. 2006. M. Evil environment in the WCG.
Helena and I went to a WCG service [not that we would because so very little of God is there!]. I soon found myself surrounded by a circle of men [depicts man-domination] and separated from Helena [depicts how their policies and teachings cause division and that they have even separated families and spouses].
A man called my name, mechanically and impersonally. I looked around but could see no one [symbolises the impersonal, mechanical, ritualistic environment]. Finally, as I was standing alone in the middle of this circle [likening it to a witchcraft circle], a man said that I was giving the opening prayer. It was all so impersonal and cold. The situation was intimidating. I was expected to comply! The circle of men was coercive in the way it just stood there.
He didn’t ask me if I wanted to. I didn’t want to! I raised my eyebrows, showing my disapproval. He seemed a bit surprised at my response. [Many people stay inside the little demonic boxes they call ‘churches’ because they are able to fulfil their desire for influence or power over others. That is not my desire at all. Such desire is so wrong!]
Comment: As I was thinking after the dream, I wished that – if I were in such a situation (not that I would be; I was put in the position of someone similar to myself but who goes to that church for meetings), I would like to pray in that opening prayer in a way that WCG folks are not used to. I would like to talk so personally to God, so they would sense the presence of the Holy Spirit. And I would like to go on and on communing with God, so they would not have time to ‘preach’ and fill people’s minds with rubbish and half truths. Instead, I would like to keep praying so long that the prayer would form the teaching and tell them things that they are unaware of, to set them free from the bondage they are held in.
The WCG Has Reverted
17th Feb. 2006. M. The WCG has reverted.
In this dream I was looking in the garden of our former home [symbolising our former church]. I noticed that where we used to have a nice ornate retaining wall (retaining soil of a flower bed), there were some paving slabs inserted vertically (highly unsatisfactory – they won’t withstand much lateral pressure at all). Moss and other weed had grown over them [showing neglect and that these changes have been around now a long time].
Beside these slabs, the ground had sunk, the depression revealing where a ditch once was. And there was a little water in the bottom of it. Things were reverting to what they had been like many years before.
Comment: The dream symbolises the reversion of the WCG. It came out of the false traditions of the mainline churches by asserting the biblical authority for keeping the Sabbaths and holy days. But in the nineties, they retrogressed and tolerated the unbiblical deceptive customs they formerly renounced. How ironic that the church which prided itself on how different it was, now lauds the very things it once derided and stood up against! The dog has surely returned to its vomit! A greater apostasy could not be imagined!!
The Truth That Lives!
18th Feb. 2006. M. Ron Stoddart.
Ron featured in this dream but he was unrecognisable. He was nothing like he used to look. He was dishevelled, and had completely different features. [Symbolising the changes to his spiritual appearance that the WCG’s deception and resultant demise have produced.]
I was looking at the back cover of a magazine where there was a picture of a man standing, talking. It was a pose – or so I thought. Then the man began to move and change position. His image faded out in one place, and then emerged in another position. He became animated and started to talk.
I was astonished! I had never seen a picture enliven, so that the person you actually looked at in the photo was now alive and talking to you. The image of the man was now reality! I wanted to take this and show it to Ron. [An allegory of the Truth in the Word of God that lives. The Truth of God is a Person (Jesus), but most people merely have a mental picture or image of Him in their minds. Yet He is alive and communicates to us! But hasn’t He been relegated to the ‘back page’ of most people’s lives?! The depiction portrays the revival coming shortly which will cause Him to become real to many.]
Then in my hands I was holding a large A4-sized book. It was open, and on the double page spread before me was a beautiful picture. It was of a flowering, fruiting tree, like a cherry tree. The fruits and flowers were of different shades of lovely red, as were the leaves. It was breathtakingly picturesque. As I was admiring this, immediately the very form of what I was looking at also appeared above the pages, superimposed over the picture! It was the reality that the picture reflected. This astonished me. [An allegory of the truth-loaded literature of MM that brings the reality of God into our physical sphere.]
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Further Reading
Confirmation of what the above dreams convey is provided in
Articles for the Benefit of Members and Ex-Members of the WCG.
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God speaks to His prophets
today just as He spoke to His prophets of old.
One very expressive avenue of communication
is via dreams and visions (Num 12:6).
The leadership of the Worldwide Church of God is under God's
condemnation for:
1) defying Him in their spiritual promiscuity,
2) maintaining their spiritual control over the minds of their subjects, and
3) repudiating the words of the prophets He sends to correct and redirect them.
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