Resisting A Prophet
In 1998, a friend e-mailed me with a
pertinent message. God had spoken to him about others’ reactions to what God
has given me to do for Him. Here is that e-mail:
Subj: A Word From Jonathan
I've had a feeling, a picture [vision], and a Word.
Feeling: You become overly
emotionally personally involved in some issues.
Word: I Samuel 8:7 was put in my
mind to give you.
And the Lord told him [Samuel]:
“Listen.... it is not you they have rejected..., but Me.” (1 Sam 8:7.)
You are doing your tasks. Don't fret
too much about closed minds.
Picture: You are in a
first-century type eastern market.
You used to be in a tent; but when you
tried to give the other occupants treasure maps that have already been paid
for, you were mocked by those who thought such a thing could only be handed
down by the cheifest of merchants; and only if the petitioner stooped low
enough to satisfy him.
(The picture also had an amusing scene.
Whenever anyone stooped really low, all the men around the chiefest of
You are now out in the street, but you
can still be heard faintly calling through the curtain. Most street people
hurry by. Some merchants, proud of who they are, mock you because they have
their own treasure maps.
But beyond them, peering around the
robes of the mockers are a few who are waiting for an opportunity to ask you
for a map.
Cheerio, in Christian love,
Thanks for this, Jon. Makes much sense!
...Helena and I do tend to get quite emotionally involved and grieved at the
stubbornness of people – their refusal to accept the aspects of truth we are
trying to alert them to.
I have just had a lengthy altercation
via the net with a pastor in the USA, who shuts his mind to anything other
than what he wants to pursue in his own agenda and personal ambition (cut
and pasted below this note. You might find it interesting). His pride
prevents him learning more. ("Some merchants, proud of who they are, mock
you because they have their own treasure maps.")
....your reminder is very timely.
Helena had a dream last night that a person was watching us, suspiciously,
from around the corner. Some are very curious to know what's going on. We
have found that there are a few believers who truly want to know and believe
the whole truth, at any cost to themselves, but we can't reach most of them
because church leaders block the way, either physically or psychologically.
That's why God will blast the doors open with supernatural power.
Subj: Re: Your emails and things Date: 08/12/98
In a message dated 07/12/98 17:50:40
GMT, you write:
<< I have sent you a tape which perhaps
you have not received yet. Please listen to it and take it as one brother
blessing another. >>
Thanks. The tape came this morning. I
include some comments on that at the end of this reply.
<< I have not responded to all your
recent emails because I have not and do not feel called to respond to issues
related to Sabbath, or feasts, or Christmas. These are issues, all of which
I have examined in depth years ago. I have and am trying to be at peace with
all men, and whenever I respond, you write with "upsetness" in your "voice"
and the result is not peace between us. >>
If I am grieved by your lack of
objective response, is that a sin on my part or on yours?
Keith Davis wrote a very worthwhile
summary of the life of John G Lake (Back To The Future, 12/11/98),
which you published on your Elijah List. In it he said very appropriately
that Lake was "a man without compromise when it involved the Spirit's
revelation of the Word, Lake utterly refused to compromise the true
revelation of the Word for a false unity which he believed resulted in
spiritual weakness. He believed that principle is better than unity, and the
ultimate end of right principles would be true unity of the faith as
described in Ephesians 4:13."
Peace was not achieved by Jesus either.
When He turned up the spiritual heat, MANY of His disciples no longer walked
with Him (Jn 6:66). Was that Jesus' fault for demanding greater spiritual
depth from them, or theirs for stepping back from what He asked? Is it my
fault that we don't walk in peace for challenging you to accept further
revelation of what God requires of us in obedience to Him, or your fault for
refusing to accept the input?
<< Since we are both trying to listen
to the Lord, I ask you to go to Him and ask Him personally to what depth He
has seen me research this Sabbath issue. Then you will not have to ask me,
or ask me to prove anything to you, and when the Lord tells you about my
research, you will then know that it is not a matter of throwing texts your
way to "prove my point" as that would only be fodder for your canon to tell
me why each and every text has been misapplied. >>
OK, I will tell you what He has given
me about you. I have told you some of it already, but you didn't like to
Firstly, when your e-mail reply
appeared on my screen I felt a sinking feeling inside and I knew that you
had rejected me. That was the last thing He said. He told me more before.
I was given a dream last week of you.
You were represented by a van (I don't know if you use the same word, but a
van is a working vehicle in which tradesmen carry their tools and materials
for work) which was in my way. Petrol was being poured out on the ground
very near your van. I knew that it would ignite soon and cause a fierce
explosion, so I asked you to consider moving your van. I was troubled
because I cared for your van and didn't want to see it damaged. But you
wouldn't move it.
So, He doesn't have to tell me how much
you have 'researched' these issues I have presented to you for your
consideration. What if I have researched them for longer? I have kept the
Sabbath for 33 years now, and in all that time He has continued to increase
my understanding and appreciation of the spiritual value of obeying this
command, just like the other nine.
It's not really a question of how much
you may have researched anything. If you are wrong, you are wrong, despite
the length of time you have devoted to it. Are you proud of that? Then, that
pride could hinder a correct appraisal. If you think you have arrived at a
right conclusion and that there is no need for you to reinvestigate anything
concerning what I have sent you, then what more can I say? Arrogance
occludes humility, and division is the result.
<< Honestly, Malcolm, I must be about
my Father's business – and so must you. >>
Then one of us is wrong. Which one? We
can't both be about our Father's business, because we are heading apart, not
<< If I responded in kind to each
person that disagreed with my beliefs and theology, I would have time for
nothing else. If I responded to you the way you would prefer I do, I
certainly would have no time for the Elijah List at all. >>
Which shows what is top of your agenda.
It's your baby, not necessarily that which God wants ideally for you at this
time. The Lord prophesied to you previously about your pride and pursuit of
<< I am called to the nations with what
the Lord is asking me to do >>
Yes. And you could go a lot more
effectively if you let Him do it His way, not work it out your way. His way
inevitably causes confrontation and sifts hearers along the way. Doing what
God wants also involves giving up what we hold dear.
<< and to stop and argue about the
Sabbath as a means to salvation is simply unfruitful. >>
You shouldn't be arguing. You should be
busy examining what I have sent, and humbling yourself before God to accept
what HE says in His Word on the matter. Then you would find the keeping of
the Sabbath most fruitful. And I didn't say it was a means to salvation.
That is twisting what I have said. We don't obey anything God says to get
salvation. We obey to do what God says. Even after having done all that, we
are still unprofitable servants; we have only done what we should have done
in the first place. We are not justified by works, but saved by grace.
Then, when we accept His grace, we allow Him to sanctify us as we accept and
live out the obedience to His Word in our lives.
<< Especially when both of our minds
are made up in concrete on this issue >>
Which proves again that one of us is
wrong. We can't both be right, or we would be in agreement.
<< (please don't respond here with
another "prophecy" that God is now going to judge me – This does not have
the fruit of the Spirit in it when that happens.) >>
Doesn't it? Did Jeremiah's correction
also lack the fruit of the Spirit of God in it when he said: "I will make
this house like Shiloh and this city an object of cursing among all the
nations of the earth..... The Lord sent me to prophesy against this house
and this city all the things you have heard. Now reform your ways and your
actions and obey the Lord your God. Then the Lord will relent and not bring
the disaster He has pronounced against you" (Jer 26:6,12-13).
God had previously told him: "Tell
them, This is what the Lord Almighty, the God of Israel, says: Drink, get
drunk and vomit, and fall to rise no more...." (Jer 25:27). If you think
what I have said to you at the Lord's bidding is without the fruit of His
Spirit, you reject Jeremiah as a prophet of God, too.
<< We are called to make disciples of
all nations and not converts of other Christians to our own doctrinal
Shouldn't the two go hand in hand?
Indeed! Jesus said: ".... teaching them to obey all things I have commanded
you" (Matt 28:20). Disciples who are not disciplined in living in obedience
to every word of God are not fully disciplined. They have yet to learn other
important lessons in discipleship. Jesus said: "You are My friends if you do
what I command" (Jn 15:14). You can't keep nine commands and scotch one of
them because it doesn't suit your style. Whoever breaks one command is
guilty of breaking all, James wrote. Who's right? You or the apostle James?
<< Too many people are being "Lost" to
spend our time arguing doctrinal issues on the law.>>
Do you think God needs you to race off
after the lost? Doesn't He have the time of their calling all under His
control? He does! He wants YOU first to obey Him, then He can use you to
bring others into His fold. The 'lost' will come when the time is right.
They're not as lost as you think. They're going through a time of
preparation before they can be called and saved. If you use your 'busyness'
in trying to reach the lost as an excuse for ignoring important issues of
obedience in Christian living and discipleship, whose agenda are you
pursuing? Your own.
<< Please respect that these issues are
not mine, >> which is what I say to you, Steve.
<<and please discontinue trying to get
my attention or change my mind on them. >>
This will be my last, unless you resume
<< If you knew my time and research
already expended, you would know that such discussion between us would be
Would I waste so much of my time on you
if I was not sent by the Almighty?! I have nothing to gain personally,
except another enemy.
<< I'm trying to direct your attention
to things that are not a waste of the precious time the Lord has given on
this earth. >>
I'm sorry I have been wasting your
precious time. I didn't notice how valuable it was compared with mine.
<< You need to know Malcolm that as I
read your posts, when or if you start to tell me the awful things that will
now happen to me because of my position, I just quickly hit delete. So if
you write a passionate word "against me" "from the Lord" it simply doesn't
ever get read. >>
He that turns away his ear from hearing
the law, his prayer shall be an abomination to the Lord (Prov 28:9).
<< I won't read them when you "go off"
like that. Why take your time that is better spent on other things? >>
You're right. I'm going now.
<< If you take 20 minutes to tell me
why I'm now in trouble, it is only wasted time as I just hit delete when I
see where you are going. So much of what you've written in that vein has
never even been read by me.>>
So, along with the law (the Pentateuch)
I suppose you never read the Prophets either.
MY REPLY TO YOUR TAPE
Thank you. I received the tape this
morning and listened to it all the way through. While you come over as well
meaning, I cannot help but conclude that you are labouring under some
You know harmony is not just founded
upon speaking nice kind things and never disagreeing or contesting anything.
There are times when the wounds of a friend are better than the kisses of an
enemy. And correction towards righteousness comes initially from the Throne
of Grace. But you don't see it that way at the moment.
There were some wrong points about us
on your tape:
1. I am not 'wounded' in the sense that
you insinuated. I am grieved by the stubbornness of many of those to whom I
am sent, yes. But so were the prophets God used towards Israel.
2. My wife, Helena, does not second
guess anything I am commissioned to do. She is 100% behind me in the work
God has given me. She has an intercessory ministry. She prays all day long,
and sometimes awakes at night to intercede.
3. You mentioned romance and prayed
that our romance be restored. That conclusion was also false. [My wife and
I are both happily married, and our relationship has steadily improved over
the past 30 years. We have never looked back. So, your ‘prophetic’ input was
wrong. You are hearing from the adversary.]
4. And you prayed for our favour in the
community to be restored. I don't seek that, nor pray for it. If it comes in
measure, so be it. I don't care for that. I'm not a man-pleaser. I have been
told by God that I will give my life for Him in what He has commissioned me
to do. I will be murdered, martyred, if you like. Like Peter, James and many
of the other apostles, prophets and other believers down through the
What I seek most is to see those to
whom I am sent, accept our input from the Lord, change, and get their
conduct into line with EVERY word of God.
5. You quoted the preacher who said
that 50% of what we believe is wrong, and the problem is we don't know which
50%. You included yourself in that along with me. But if 50% of what I
believe is wrong, then why did God send me to correct your doctrinal errors?
It's strange that I am [was] willing to
listen to your tapes and even pass them on to others, but that you will not
reciprocate in that regard – even though you say you want to have an open
spirit. You refuse to look into the facts of what I have sent you.
Who IS nurturing an open spirit?
Perhaps you should take a more introspective look at your own approach and
be more honest with yourself.
Jesus came down heavily on the
religious leaders of His time for their arrogance and hypocrisy. He was
fulfilling His role as Prophet of God. If I have come to you for the same
reasons, who are you really resisting?
This will be my last missive to you. I
am called elsewhere now. I do not wish you ill, but well. However, the
choice is down to you, not me.
Should you ever want to respond
positively and objectively I welcome your friendship and brotherhood.
In His love,
Steve Shultz, moderator of the ‘Elijah
List’ which publishes prophetic words over the web, refused to accept any
correction. He has all the doctrinal truth he wants from the Bible. He
doesn’t want any more. He is not alone in his myopia. That is the prevalent
approach in this Laodicean church age (Rev 3:14-22). It saddens Jesus. But
with His patience and love, He stands outside their door, continuing to
Helena was given this dream on 23rd
Dream about a lot of people, all
sitting around in their little groups, having their picnics, without being
aware of each other. We were at the side trying to get on with our business.
We were ignored. They were all doing 'their own thing'.
Meaning: This depicts the
attitude of most to the truths God wants them to accept and move on with,
and it depicts their attitude and approach towards us. They are involved in
their little churches, doing what they want. They take little notice of what
we have written, so they fail to grasp the spiritual depth of many issues.
This one of taking seriously input from the prophets of God is one of them.
So, instead of having a more substantial feast, they are content to just
What this means is that people are all
engrossed in what THEY are doing, concerned about their little area of
activity. It is the product of a selfish spirit. It is idolatrous and blinds
people to the bigger picture. They don't see what God means to do through
our literature. They may see the publications, but what is inside them is
lost on them. They fail to see how God wants to give this truth to the
Church worldwide and how it is meant to totally reform it around the world.
This selfishness causes blindness which keeps them out of the revival which
God means for many more to share in.
N.B. God has given us many more dreams,
which we record in our regular newsletters for the benefit of others who
want to learn from them. It’s a shame that most allow their own carnality to
resist God and reject what He brings them through our writings.